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E128 - Noel Phillips

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Noel Phillips joins us this week!

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00:01
Behind the Prop Intro
Clear prop 773 Cherokee number two following Flynn traffic three mile final makes for Din Runway two five going four mile. 


00:10
Nick Alan
This is behind the prop with United Flight Systems owner and licensed pilot Bobby Doss and his co host, major airline captain and designated pilot examiner Wally Mulhern. Now let's go behind the prop. 


00:25
Bobby Doss
What's up, Wally? 


00:26
Wally Mulhern
Hey Bobby, how are you? 


00:28
Bobby Doss
I am fantastic as always. It's been a while since we've had a guest and this could be the biggest guest we've ever had. Not from just a following on social media, but he's a pretty big guy in my flight school. Here we have Noel Phillips on the show today. Thanks for joining us, Noel. 


00:45
Noel Phillips
Hi, nice to meet you guys and yeah, well, thanks for having me on. 


00:48
Bobby Doss
Of course. So if you've never heard of Noel Phillips, which I was in that boat about seven or nine months ago when he first walked in the flight school. One of my students ran into my office and said, can you freaking believe no Phillips is in your lobby? And I've said this story enough. I just like, no, I didn't and I don't know who no Phillips is. I apologize. But this student was a huge fan of Noel Phillips. And if you haven't heard of Noel Phillips, do a quick search on the Google and you will find him everywhere. Noel Phillips is a vlogger. And I will let Noel give us a little bit of his introduction on his own here. 


01:23
Noel Phillips
Thank you. Yeah, so yeah, I'm a vlogger and I effectively. Well, that's a crazy term, isn't it? I'm in my 40s and I call myself a vlogger. I'm not really that cool, but I, Yeah, I basically have a YouTube channel where I travel around the world flying on the most craziest planes I can find, doing crazy adventures, flying on planes and basically make videos about it and stick them on the Internet. And for some reason people enjoy watching them. Whether I be flying across Kazakhstan on old Antonov planes or flying over Africa, you know, on planes that are falling to pieces and things like that. I just kind of enjoy showing the crazy stuff and the off the beaten track stuff and showing how aviation ultimately connects people around the world is my goal. And yeah, that's kind of me. 


02:10
Bobby Doss
But it's no small presence either, right? I think. Instagram, 30 million impressions. YouTube, half a million followers and subscribers. It's not just a handful of fans, people. This is a big channel and I'm surprised. I watched a lot of your Videos, I probably haven't watched all of them. But you flying stuff that I wouldn't even let them taxi me around in, like some of your videos, you're holding parts of the seat in your hand saying, how is this going to fly? And yet you still take off in those planes. What, what drives you to take that level of risk? 


02:44
Noel Phillips
You know what. And I don't think it is so much of a risk as people think it looks bad, I have to say. Some of the planes I've been on, yeah, there's panels missing, the seats are falling apart. Like what the one you're on about in Africa. The guy at the side of me sat on seat and it collapsed at the side of me, which was like not a good situation. And he ended up just holding the seat in his hands and just sort of, you know, I didn't have a seat belt on that flight either. But I suppose ultimately, what the thing that keeps me thinking that this, you know, this. It looks bad, admittedly, but it's still flying, it's still going. This plane after, you know, even in this condition, is still running backwards and forwards every single day carrying passengers. 


03:22
Noel Phillips
And yeah, that's the thing for me, I just think, well, aviation, yeah, it's, it's something that you've got to pay close attention to safety on. And some countries, in some places, they don't pay quite as much of attention as you might like. But ultimately, aviation's still pretty safe. At the end of the day, nobody wants anything to go wrong with their planes. Even in countries across Africa where, you know, the planes are held together with sticky tape, you know. 


03:48
Bobby Doss
Yeah. I'm sure the pilots would never leave if they thought there was any risk, but it's still. Some of your posts are pretty bad. I'm also kind of amazed by the cuisine. Not. I've been open, I've not been around the world. I think I've been to the UK and France. That's about. In Mexico, Canada, those are my big countries that I've been to. So not a big breath for Bobby. But I've seen you eat some nasty stuff too, on planes, and it's not nasty to the locals. But you've ate some nasty stuff. 


04:20
Noel Phillips
Oh, yeah. Sometimes it's not ideal. Sometimes. You know, most of the time, I mean, I, I'm not very adventurous when it comes to food. And people say to me all the time, you go all the way to India, a country with amazing food, and then you eat McDonald's or KFC. And I'm like, that's because I know McDonald's and KFC. I know that even though it's going to be a KFC in Delhi, it's going to taste pretty much the same as a KFC in Houston or a KFC in London. It's, you know, and that's kind of why I tend to. Yeah. 


04:50
Noel Phillips
But yeah, sometimes it's humorous what you see here they serve, I mean, in Kazakhstan, I remember getting served like a little plastic tub with some cling film on the top and there was just, there was a sandwich with a slice of processed cheese just laid on the top of it, which was just amazing. Then there was this, a cake, a little cake bar and it was called Boom. And I was like, that's a brilliant name for a cake bar on a plane, isn't it? Yeah, some watered down orange juice like you might find at a birthday party or something, you know, it's just like, okay. But yeah, it depends on where you go. I've had some amazing food on planes, but equally, yeah, you get some really, I suppose I'd call it food that you've got to have a taste for. 


05:29
Noel Phillips
And I don't necessarily have that taste all the time. 


05:32
Wally Mulhern
Do you get the opportunity to go and talk to the pilots? 


05:36
Noel Phillips
I do a lot of the time, yeah. And it depends on where I am, really. There's been many times when I've been on flights and they've come up to me before the flight and said, oh, I love your videos. And it turns out they know who I am anyway. Other times are sometimes better because you get to actually be there as an aviation enthusiast and they get to see that love of aviation before they know, like, what it is I'm doing. I was in Pakistan this year, an absolutely incredible experience. I flew up to a place called Skardu, which is in the mountains in the Himalayas in the north of Pakistan, and they fly an A320 there every day with Pia. 


06:11
Noel Phillips
And you land, you sort of fly around the valley and then you land into the basin between a load of mountains at like 12,000ft up or something like that. It's an absolutely incredible approach. And I flew up to Skardu. I got off the plane, turned around and got straight back on the plane to go back down to Islamabad. And the pilot saw me coming back and apparently he said to the flight attendant, that must be an aviation enthusiast. Like, why would anybody else be coming up to Skardu to fly back again? And he invited me into the flight deck before we left and I was chatting to him and he said, would you want to. Do you want to ride back down to Islamabad in the jump seat? 


06:45
Noel Phillips
I was like, yeah, you know, if this is allowed, it's like, right, just stay where you're seated for now. He said, wait till all the security guys have gone and then you can come and sit in the flight deck with us. Because apparently they don't, for some reason they don't like passengers riding in the flight deck. I can't understand why. But we. So anyway, yeah, the door shut of the plane and I ended up on the jump seat and the most incredible flight of my life really. Just flew all the way back, climbed out of Skardu. They managed to do an extra loop over the airport before because they have to sort of climb in, a spiraling climb to get above the mountains before they can head south. So we did an extra one. 


07:20
Noel Phillips
So we got an extra good view as went down and were just talking planes the whole way back down. And it just. Experiences like that once in every so often you get that. And it's just incredible. And it's all because of the love of aviation. You know, that's. They wanted to share their love of aviation with me and I wanted to share my love of aviation with them. And that's. Yeah, it's brilliant. 


07:42
Bobby Doss
That's amazing. So I read some of your frequently asked questions. I'm sure many people ask you the same questions over and we've done it on this preview of the show where we asked some questions. But one of the questions that pops up first on Google is how does Noel Phillips afford to make all these flights? And I think your answer on your website's pretty candid and interesting. It's just a part of the business, right? 


08:05
Noel Phillips
That's exactly it. You know, people seem to have this opinion that, or these thoughts that we like mega rich millionaires and everything. It's like, there's no such thing as a millionaire in aviation. Like, you know, they always say, don't they, if you want to become a millionaire in aviation, the easiest way is to start off as a billionaire. And that's true. You know, we just. I'm just a regular guy from the uk. You know, I grew up on a. In a small house in England with not much money. I just had a love of planes and it just got to the point where I managed to be able to have. My hobby is just riding on planes from time to time. 


08:38
Noel Phillips
I'd fly to, like, to Amsterdam or to Paris and spend, like, £40 on a flight like, every few months as a treat and as a day out. And that's where it all started from. And the fact is that as the business has grown, you know, because it is a business and that's grown, and the money that comes in from YouTube then pays for flights, and then that pays for more YouTube videos, which then pays for. And it just kind of rolls in a cycle like that, really. And then that's it. At the end of the day, you know, we're nothing special, really. We don't live an extravagant life. It's just that the bit of my life that you'll see on YouTube is me flying on planes around the world. 


09:12
Noel Phillips
You know, you don't see me in the frozen food aisle at HEB grabbing some corn dogs or something like that, because that's not. 


09:21
Bobby Doss
Many vloggers doing that channel and being successful, for sure. We'll talk. I want to come back to how you ended up here. But before we do that, I want to talk about the vlogger world. Right. I think we all know someone. Wally said it. I said it before we started the show. Everybody thinks it'd be easy to be a vlogger. Everybody thinks it'd be easy. Look, all I got to do is carry around my iPhone and a selfie stick or holding my hand and record videos. Why doesn't everybody have a channel with half a million people following them or subscribing? And I don't think people realize how hard it is. Wally and I talk about it all the time, man. 


09:56
Bobby Doss
We started this show with the best of intentions, and there's a lot of days where we still love doing the show, but there's a lot of days where it is a grind to publish a show every 14 days. It's hard work. It's not just talking into two microphones. 


10:11
Noel Phillips
It is. It is ridiculously hard work sometimes, and I think it's enjoyable work. And this is why I enjoy doing it. You know, I love doing it, and I wouldn't be doing it if I didn't enjoy it, because why would I. Why wouldn't I just get a job where I could work eight hours a day or something and just come home and have an evening off and just watch movies with the kids and that. That's not what it's like. As I was saying to you just before the show, Bobby, I. You know, I wake up in the morning, first thing I'm doing is checking my emails and the Last thing I do when I go to bed is either working on emails, booking flights, editing videos. 


10:42
Noel Phillips
It's just like I was saying last night were watching a movie and we said we'll have an evening when we'll sit and watch a movie. And I was booking flights to Nauru for a trip I'm doing next year because I thought I need to book that flight while I'm doing that. And it's just you just never stop. And it's very, very hard work and it's being a content creator full time. I think it's a job that if you are doing something that you're passionate about and you're enjoying it, that has to take the lead. Because running a business and doing the content creation in the background, that isn't necessarily quite as fun. 


11:12
Noel Phillips
You know, it's just a necessary part of the job, being in meetings, dealing with brands as much as brands are amazing for us because we get brand deals and stuff for the YouTube channel. But that in itself is a full time job because you're having to negotiate on contracts and you're sorting out financial terms and all this sort of stuff. This is the stuff that I'm, I don't enjoy doing, you know, I just like making the videos. But when you run a business obviously like this, you sort of, you have to do all that as well. And I guess the silver lining is that I get to do such an incredibly cool job as my main job. You know, I get to go. Who else could say they get to follow the passion 247 as their job like I do. 


11:50
Noel Phillips
And I think I'm incredibly lucky. But like I say it is, it's really hard work to get it to that place. 


11:56
Bobby Doss
It wasn't too long ago you walked in the school and I had seen a post. I don't remember how many flights it was, but it was a ridiculous amount of flights that you had booked. And you just talked about booking flights for next year. There's got to be a mountain of planning and coordination that you're putting into this effort. But was it something like 21 flights to 17 countries or something? The other day you told me you booked it was a ridiculous number. 


12:17
Noel Phillips
Something like that. Yeah, I booked it just. It just between now and the end of the year I just booked a load of flights because I was in, you know, I wake up in one of two moods. I'm either in a creative mood where I want to make content and edit videos, or I'm in a analytical Mood where I want to just like book flights and then if I'm in one of those moods, I have to seize it on that moment and just book whatever I can. And that's. Yeah, the planning of that can be horrendous. 


12:41
Noel Phillips
I'm trying to book a trip at the minute for January next year and I'm trying to book a three week trip away because I'm thinking if I can make three weeks worth of videos, I can sort of be set for a few months then, and then, you know, not have to actually travel again for a couple of months after that. But that's in itself is horrendous because I'm like, right, well, I've booked a part of it in Australia and I've booked a couple of things I'd like to do there. But now I need to look at flights of how to get there and I need to find a cool thing to do. Otherwise I need to, I want to go to South America. But that's logistically speaking, a bit of a nightmare because it's so spread out. 


13:13
Noel Phillips
The cool things I want to film are in different places. You have flights that run one day every two weeks. So you sort of have to tie that up with everything else and it just, yeah, it becomes a bit of a logistical nightmare, juggling flights. And then of course you get something change. You know, an airline will say, right, thanks for booking our flight, but we're changing the day it's going the day before now. And you're like, okay, brilliant. But I've got like 20 other flights like all tying onto one another. They all sort of rely on this one being in the middle and yeah, it's just a juggling act constantly. 


13:44
Bobby Doss
Wow, that's crazy. So we, you clearly aren't from Spring, Texas or Houston, Texas. You, you have a little bit of an accent there. I hear a little Texas twang coming to you, just so you know. But how on earth did you end up flying at United Flight Systems here in a little old town just north of Houston? 


14:05
Noel Phillips
So we've wanted to live in the US as long as I can remember. It's always been our dream to live in the States since, you know, as long. We've been married for 20 years, my wife and It's always been our dream to move to the States since were kids. And we've looked at ways over the years that we could do that and we've never thought it'd be possible. We, we started the year I started the YouTube channel and my wife was very supportive of me. And the business started growing from that. And it got to a point during COVID actually, where we actually sat and looked at our options because it was. It was a very dark time, I think, for everybody. 


14:39
Noel Phillips
We were just looking for a way that we could sort of change going forward and figure out what were doing after all this was over. And my wife said to me, she said, you know, with the business now with YouTube and everything, could we not just move to the US and live out in the States? And I said, no, there's no way we could live in the States. We can't get a visa. You know, I'm not talented in any specific way. I just make YouTube videos, you know, it's not anything. And anyway, eventually she managed to persuade me to speak to an attorney and figure out if there was a way we could do it. And it turned out that there was using the business and moving the business over here, and that's that sort of spurs to move over. 


15:14
Noel Phillips
We were looking at moving to Georgia initially because it was a time, a place that I spent a lot of my time. I used to work for a company that had an office there. We've been on vacation there quite a lot, and that was sort of what. Where were looking at. We went a few times and we figured that not only was the weather not necessarily as good as we'd sort of thought in our minds, you know, spending quite a bit of time there. It turns out it's actually quite rainy in Georgia, and it's very similar to how it used to be in the uk. So from my flying perspective, from flying a light aircraft, I was like, well, that's not really going to work. 


15:44
Noel Phillips
We'd have had to move miles away from Atlanta to be able to afford somewhere that nice and remote that we could bring the family up in, for instance. So we just ended up, like, falling out of love with Georgia a bit. But that kind of coincided with me coming over here on a trip to Dallas in Texas, meeting some other YouTube creators up here, and they were like, you should come and explore Texas and see about moving to Texas. I was like, well, I don't know. You know, Texas isn't somewhere we'd ever really thought that we'd end up. You know, it's. It's. It's a beautiful part of the world, but we never thought that we'd end up living here and. But we came and we loved it. My wife and her dad came over because there's a direct flight from Manchester to Houston. 


16:27
Noel Phillips
With Singapore Airlines. And they just got a cheap ticket over to come and explore it. And they ended up staying in a place in Tomball, which is right next door to Hook's airport. And they came home and were like, it's amazing around Houston. We ought to go and look at living in Houston. I'm like, but they get hurricanes and it's hot and everything. And you hear that Houston doesn't necessarily have the best reputation as a city. They're like, yeah, but just look past that. And I'm like, well, okay, fair enough. And I came over and I have to say, the first time I came over, we arrived into Houston airport and to Bush airport, got in a rental car and hit the. The beltway on a Monday night rush hour. And it was just chaos. 


17:08
Noel Phillips
And I said to Rachel's dad, who I was with, I said, you want me to move here? I said, this is horrible. He's like, no, no, you'll. You'll like it. You'll like it. Wait till we get out. And then we came out past Tomball and were staying. Actually, were staying at a place in the Woodlands. And that's like. Actually, you know, it's quite nice. This isn't the Houston that I've heard about. You know, it's quite nice. Anyway, we ended up coming back a couple of times, finding a really nice place here just like about an hour north of Houston. And we just fell in love with it. And here we are now we live in, literally live in the forest. We've got a ton of land. We're 20 minutes from Tomball airport. So we can. 


17:48
Noel Phillips
So I can go flying with 40 minutes from Bush for when I'm doing my trips. And then I get to come home and live in a. In a forest. It's just like, you can't. You can't beat that, really. And that's kind of how I ended up here, really. 


18:02
Bobby Doss
Yeah. What I don't think a lot of people realize about Houston is it's so spread out. I was talking to a group of members of the EAA earlier this morning, and they. I said, look, if I wanted to get to south Houston right Now, it's a two hour drive. It's a long way. It's 70 plus miles. Many, many interchanges of roads and tolls, and it would be navigating across most states for me to get to. But where I live on the north side, I really have access, Almost all of that at my beck and call. Maybe it takes me a little time to get there. But there's so much commerce in the north side of Houston. I never have to go to Houston. 


18:37
Bobby Doss
There's so much you can see and do and concert venues and the forests and the restaurants and the foodie restaurants and the airports that you can live in a bunch of different places in Houston that are all hours apart from one another, but still be part of Houston. So where you live up by the airport here is a very niche area which I've kind of grown up in my whole life that gives you the best of both worlds. Big sports teams that very few have been successful. But I have access to them if I want access to them. The airports are great and the city, the governments and the streets and all the things that they put together because it is so big. Make it what it is and it's a really cool place to live. For sure. 


19:16
Noel Phillips
Absolutely. Now we've fallen in love with it. I wouldn't want to be anywhere else. And I come back from a trip now and just love coming, you know, just being home and we just drive 10 minutes up the road. We have everything within a few minutes drive of where we live, you know, so much more than we ever did in the uk. And like you say, I don't think I've ever been into Houston properly. I've driven through it a couple of times, been the year that we've lived here, but other than going to Hobby Airport, I don't think I've ever actually been into Houston itself. You know, you don't need to. You just live all your life here. If I do want to go to Galveston, I'll just fly. It's much quicker. 


19:49
Bobby Doss
There you go. No doubt. Why wait in rush hour traffic? So let's talk about. We talked about the career and the work and the job, but what do you do in your fun time or what is your hobby outside of it? And I'm sure you're going to tie it to work too, but talk a little bit about what you're doing when you aren't flying for your work channel. 


20:09
Noel Phillips
So yeah, I think that's been a big problem for me because initially. But doing these videos was my hobby on the side. I did an IT job 9 till 5 and then I came home and I enjoyed making videos and the weekends I'd go off on crazy flights and then come back and edit them into videos. That was my hobby on the side. That's my job now and I don't really want to be doing it as my hobby on the side. So I just had to figure out something I could do. And I think during, again, it was during COVID we got to a point a couple of months in and the world shut down. I had no idea if I was still going to be able to travel and make content for the channel like I do now. 


20:46
Noel Phillips
And I thought, you know what I need to see. I have my ppl years ago. So when I was sort of 19 or 20, I got my private pilot's license back in the UK and when I got married, my wife we sort of got a house and then couldn't really afford to fly anymore. It's an expensive hobby, especially over in the uk. So I just kind of quit and thought I'd lost my license entirely. And then during COVID I contacted a flight school. I was like, you know what, I'm just going to contact a flight school and see what it would take to do my license again. I'm expecting to have to do the whole 40 hours again and start again from scratch. Let's just see what we can do. 


21:23
Noel Phillips
And I contacted a flight school and they were like, what do you mean you've never lost your license? I was like, hang on a minute, I've not flown in 20 years. And they're like, right, but your license is for life. You know, there's the currency is what you've got to do. I was like, okay, this is interesting. I had no idea of this at the time. I went up with this guy in a 172 within four hours of flying. I'd basically, I got my license back again. And I was like, that's incredible. It literally is like riding a bike after all that time. And yeah, I, I wasn't and I'll admit very openly I wasn't a very good pilot when I started off after a 20 year gap. But I could fly a plane. 


22:01
Noel Phillips
And I was starting to do things like I got my night rating in the uk, I got my restricted instrument rating. So I was getting quite a bit of instructor time over there as well. And got to the point, obviously doing this is a full time job. It means it gives me time available in the week if I need it to be able to go and fly. And if I need to some time off and have a break, I can go and fly. And that's why that's what I do now. My hobby is anyway, flying is my hobby. You know, flying privately is my hobby. Flying on commercial is my job. And I, you know, I wouldn't really want it any other way. I love it like this. 


22:37
Bobby Doss
But it wouldn't be an old Phillips thing if it wasn't having its own channel. Right. So do you document any of your own flying, Noel? 


22:44
Noel Phillips
I do, yeah. So I. So I figured out pretty early on that I wanted to have a second channel and I wanted to start filming some of my own flying and putting it on the Internet as well, which is a bit of a risky thing to do, I suppose, because I don't really want to. Want to necessarily have everything I do on, you know, on. On YouTube, but because. And then again, not only for the fact like from flying planes and stuff, but also you get to the point where it becomes a second job as well and you sort of running two jobs at the same time, which I suppose I didn't really think through. 


23:12
Noel Phillips
But I like to film my flights anyway because it helps me when I can sit and look back at what I've done and I can think, oh, when I've run off driving home from the airport and I'm thinking, did I really. I'm sure I screwed up when I said this on atc or I'm sure I screwed up when I did this. I can actually sit and watch back what I've done and analyze it, which helps me like a ton. Anyway, so I started putting them together into YouTube videos and just showing me flying around different parts of the UK originally going through my restricted instrument rating, going through my night rating, flying into some amazing little airfields that we had in the UK which are, you know, a lot more varied over there. 


23:50
Noel Phillips
You get a lot more sort of different types as airfields with grass strips on the sides of hills and things like that you'd never get here in a state as big as Texas where they don't have to worry about cramming it into someone's backyard. So, yeah, I got used to fly to quite a few really cool airfields there and make videos about them and show me flying around on my second channel, fly with Noel Phillips. And I've moved over here and now flying with United Flight Systems down at Hooks Airport and doing similar things and trying to find new experiences and like expanding my knowledge as well, I think, flying different planes. 


24:27
Noel Phillips
You know, I've gone, in the course of doing this, I've gone from flying a PA28 or, sorry, from a 172 to a PA28, then on to the Cirrus now onto the 182 as well, and just keep expanding my knowledge constantly is. And sharing that journey with people as well through YouTube, I think is Just something that's really cool to do. 


24:48
Bobby Doss
Well, you've had a lot of good weather. I don't know if this is your full first summer. But you've also felt the heat. So you've learned about density, altitude, and some other things at sea level. But Hooks Airport is a very busy airport and I'm sure you're getting along well. The one there is one joke you may not know about is that Noel Phillips does have the longest pre flight at United Flight Systems of any other student. And it's not that you take so long to pre flight, it's you guys have to see the camera hookups. It takes him an hour to put all of his cameras on the plane. 


25:17
Noel Phillips
I had a feeling I was getting a reputation for that, to be honest. 


25:22
Bobby Doss
I can see everything from my office, Noel. I've watched you kick all those cameras up. It's kind of fun to watch. I mean, and then the output, the video that you produce from it is an amazing view from all those different angles. So it's really cool to see. 


25:39
Noel Phillips
Yeah, it is cool. It's a lot of work. And I often say, too, it's one of my reasons with Rach, my wife, I said, I keep saying I need to get my own plane because then I can leave all these cameras hooked up constantly, you see, and I can start putting them on top of the wings and stuff or mounting them in different places instead of just like having them where I can actually, you know, if it's not my plane. I can't just put cameras wherever I like. You know what I mean? So, yeah, this is the, the ultimate concept. I need to get my own plane, Rachel, so I can start doing all this myself. And I don't think she's buying it, to be honest. 


26:10
Wally Mulhern
It sounds like a good argument to me. 


26:13
Bobby Doss
I was gonna say Wally and I. Wally and I have both won that argument with wives at some point in our lives. So it's doable. No, that's what I'm saying. 


26:22
Noel Phillips
You might get an entire flight school out of it, Bobby. So that's working all right for you. 


26:27
Bobby Doss
Yeah. Well, and if you have enough sponsors, maybe we could just paint one specially for you that you could leave cameras picked up to. I'm sure people would like to have that as well. So lately on your posts, Instagram and some of your YouTube videos, I see a lot of commercial airliners from the United States, the Southwest flights, all the transitions that you make to those other countries. I don't know if you've. Wally, have you ever flown Noel anywhere? You remember ever flying? No. You ever met Nolan one of your flights? 


26:57
Wally Mulhern
Not that I know of, but maybe. 


26:59
Noel Phillips
Try not to mix with this common folk in the back, I'm sure. 


27:02
Bobby Doss
Oh, I. 


27:03
Wally Mulhern
That's. That's the best part of my job, actually, is going back and talking to people. Just the other day, coming out to Honolulu, I. I was walking through the cabin and a lady said, an elderly lady, she says, who are you? And I says, I'm Wally. Who are you? And she says, my name is. I forgot what her name was, but she shook my hand and she says, no, I mean, like, who are you? And I said, well, I'm Wally. And she says, are you the captain? I said, yes, I am. And she says, what are you doing back here? And I says, well, you're back here. I came to talk to you. Yeah, I like. I do like mixing with the people and enjoy seeing who, you know, who's paying the bill, who's paying my. 


27:52
Noel Phillips
Salary, you know, I find it really cool, I think, when pilots do that sort of thing and they come back and chat to the passengers. Just recently, we flew on Frontier and we had a very similar experience. We were waiting to get on the flight and the captain was just stood on the jet bridge chatting to us before we got. Didn't know who were or anything, like were making a video or anything. We was just chatting about aviation. You noticed I've got a cirrus shirt on. We were chatting about cirruses and stuff. And were just having a chat and then we got on the plane and he came back to was and he gave us a set of pilot wings each. And he was like, there you go. Just want to say hi and thank you for chatting to me. And it's just. 


28:24
Noel Phillips
Just leaves you with a really positive sort of experience in your head because you, like, these guys are just. Just like us, you know, and it's nice to know that these are the guys flying the plane at the front and getting us there safely, you know? 


28:36
Wally Mulhern
Yeah. Yeah. 


28:38
Bobby Doss
There's very few unhappy or mean people in aviation. It really is an interesting core group of people that are all out to help each other. We all kind of have a separate, similar goal that's fly, have fun and be safe. And it's. It's something that transcends many different groups of people in aviation for sure. And it's something that I appreciate a lot and notice really early on when I started flying planes. So. No. How do people find you where do they get to your YouTube channel? How do they get find your Fly with Noel Phillips channel? What would you point them to if they wanted to look you up? 


29:10
Noel Phillips
So I guess the first place to start is on YouTube and I am Noel Phillips on YouTube at Noel Phillips. And my flying channel is @FlyWithNolphillips and there you can get me to see me fly from Hucks Airport. Fly on all of United's different planes and yeah, just have fun flying and enjoying and learning at the same time. 


29:30
Bobby Doss
Well, when you're ready to take that instrument ride, I know a dp, I'll give him a call and see if he's available to maybe do a checkride for you one day. Any closing thoughts? 


29:43
Wally Mulhern
Yeah, I, I, I feel like this show was an introduction. I feel like we haven't even gotten to the main course. I mean I think we need to have him on here and just you and I just shut up and say just tell us some stories Noel, because you've gotta, I mean when you talk about these, flying these Russian airplanes over in Russia and Antonauts and all these, it's got to be crazy. It's, I would love to hear some stories. 


30:10
Noel Phillips
Yeah, absolutely. I'd be happy to absolutely, definitely do. 


30:13
Bobby Doss
A part two of this for sure. We didn't even get to talk about Kazakhstan and him meeting Borat and all the good stuff that we can't get to in a 30 minute show. So we'll definitely reconvene and do a part two sometime. Don't forget to go check out his videos latest video and fly with Noel Phillips on YouTube. As always, fly safely and stay behind the prop. 


30:37
Nick Alan
Thanks for checking out the behind the Prop podcast. Be sure to click subscribe and check us out online@brave.theprop.com behind the Prop is recorded in Houston, Texas. Creator and host is Bobby Doss. Co host is Wally Mulhern. The show is for entertainment purposes only and is not meant to replace actual flight instruction. Thanks for listening and remember, fly safe.