This week we have our second guest on the show, Devin Miller. Devin has an aviation online presence @familypilot, please go check out his videos and content!
Devin Miller has been flying for the past three years and has come a long way. He literally walked in one Sunday afternoon and wanted to fly. We took him up and he has been a great friend, partner, and aviator ever since. Devin and Bobby have literally flown thousands of miles together and share a passion for aviation. On the show today Devin, Bobby, and Wally challenge listeners on their aviation proficiency. As the holidays approach, we discuss the woes of flying without proficiency and talk about how we all stay proficient. Wally calls out a great book that I have read since we recorded the show, please check it out: The Killing Zone, by Paul Craig.
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What's up, Wally? Hey Bobby, how are you? I'm good. This is episode eight. We've another guest today but before we get to that last week, we had an episode where we talked about the ignition system. And the magneto. You teased the little bit about a student pilot with their cfi who had problem. Why don't you share the end of that story Help the listeners understand what that problem been? I will so In a nutshell. Our I’ll just give wrap up of of what the the question was. We had a A student pilot who was She was doing her check ride. Prep for three hours a check ride. Prep before her private pilot Check ride and She took off in a 172N model November model with a carburetor and I as she was rolling down the runway it it just didn't seem right and she mentioned To her cfi that it it didn't feel right. The power of the airplane just didn't seem right and and there were some other reasons. They had an extra person in the back of the airplane and he attributed to an you know an extra hundred and ten pounds of weight in the airplane and they went ahead and took off and as they were climbing out everything seemed okay to the the CFI to the to the the young lady flying, she she still. It just didn't seem right. And they went ahead and flew up to altitude and started doing some maneuvers and after her persistently saying. There's something not right with this airplane the the CFI looked over in realized that the ignition switch was on one magneto and they reached down and they moved the switch to both and they got a little bit of power boost and then she said yeah. This feels right so the point. Is that during your magneto? Check which again. I think should be calling. It called an ignition system. Check rather than check. The point is if you if you look at the checklists in most airplanes at talks about looking for a drop in rpm The one thing that checklist don't really say is it doesn't it's implied but it doesn't really say to look for a rise in rpm when you go back to both so what she did as she was in both. She flipped the switch over to one side. Got a little drop. Went back to both. Got her eyes then. Flip the switch over to clicks got to drop and then when she went to go back to both. Instead of going to clicks over she went one click over and you know may or may not have seen little rise But they took off one magneto so basically four spark plugs and Probably about eight percent loss of power. And that's that's what the the whole situation was. So, what I try to encourage people is not only to look for a drop in rpm but also look for a rise in rpm when you go back to both. Awesome, well Don't take off with magneto. there's two for a reason. It’s very beneficial to be using both of those so now let's get into today. We have a guest with us. We have Devon miller on the show. He's a close friend of mine and has been a customer student And maybe one day. We'll be an instructor for united flight systems in the future and also the host and the be all of everything. I guess that family pilot Devon welcome to the show. Hey thanks for having me look forward to it. Yes so. I met Devon. It's probably been three years now. Almost two and a half probably Just had acquired a flight school me in a partner of mine we were in the building. It was a weekend. I think it was a Sunday. A great instructor who still an instructor and his actually an assistant chief was working. That day was in the back rooms with me. We were watching the day go by there was not much activity. We'd lost most of our instructors they were Going to the regionals. Gio was the only one working that day and Gio came to me. And said hey. There's nothing left on the schedule. what should I do? I said man if you could stay a little longer you never know who my walk through that door. I had no idea how to run a fly school.
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I was guessing at the time but didn't want to lose any chance to have a customer fly. And lo and behold Devon miller walked in and said the other flight school said they couldn't fly me anybody taking on a discovery today hence you met geo and hence. You've now flown three hundred plus hours. Most if not all at this school for the most part and bought a couple planes three planes to be exact started an online presence and little ate up with aviation maybe. Yeah, absolutely It's it's an incredible story thinking back on it and just how. How when you really set your mind to something and you have a goal You know things can get pretty fall in line for you. And we're really fortunate to have had the experiences that we have and we mostly love about. It is what it enabled us to do as a family. I mean a weekend trip to Atlanta just because my daughter wanted to go see panda bears. I mean nobody's making that drive cross country but You know what aviation does for us is just we love it no looking back now and you tell us. Your wife's is her name's Mel you have two kids. They love the fly with you as well. Right, they do. My wife loves what aviation does for us. She may not really like those. Imc moments in our plane but But she loves going places and And and the family just the same. The kids love to be up in the air. See other planes. Still rings in my heartstrings. With my little guy's obsessed with helicopters. One day I’ll get him on that fixed wing train again but for right. Now they're just loving it and the vacation the trips and the destinations that we can do really take advantage a million down here in Texas so probably wrap some with to tell us a little bit about your venture into this family pilot on Facebook Instagram. I think everywhere @familypilot is your online presence. Tell us a little bit about what you're doing with family pilot. Yeah, so it It started off by just me wanted to live in Texas. My family's all back home in Canada and really wanting to just show people like hey look. This is what I’m doing like. We can all remember our discovery flights probably and and some of that early passion that most of us still carry but Wanted to show people what it was like in. And and you know when you're flying, you're not there taking pictures and so I started just recording flights through a gopro or two in a plane and started recording some of the flights and never edited video. Mine in my life. I never thought I would But then just started sharing them with my family my parents my cousins’ pilot him to see some of this stuff and And that's how it’s kind of just started off. And I was using these videos to really just replay my own flights. I mean you know you go through some of your lessons and you replay them. Look for what you did right. Look what you did wrong. That's really what I was doing. And then I. I went and did a a trip over the grand canyon and brought my cameras rented a plane and we went and did a did a little discovery flight over there with a flight school and it was gorgeous and threw those videos up online and people started actually watching them. I mean usually. It's like my mom. My dad my my cousin three views or something. And then I’d watch it a dozen times but the the grand canyon trip. A lot of people watched it so we just started recording some of our trips and documenting our family vacations and experiences of something that we could all kind of look back onto and And then it just grew a little bit of a following and then we. We started getting better at video editing. Instead of putting these videos together more and more. And now just really enjoy showing. What general aviation is to to the public? Whether they they like aviation or not You know, I think. I think we can all benefit by growing general aviation and we can grow general aviation by giving an awareness for what it can achieve for you. Or what what it will enable for you beyond just pushing people into professional pilot careers General aviation itself is is really quite rewarding. No doubt no doubt so. One of those family pilot videos pretty much made your sites probably a little bit more famous right. I think did now going on eighteen months ago. I know you probably know the date better than I do. it was you and your family. We're taking a trip. I think it was that Atlanta trip. The talked about I guess I won't ruin it. But I know you've talked about this many other shows and videos but tell us a little bit about what happened on that day. Yeah so, we took a trip over to Atlanta and spent the weekend over there and we were having a good time and The day we're going to leave the weather wasn't wasn't great leaving Atlanta so we well. Let's go back. We went into it to an aquarium down there and just killed off a few hours for the for the morning. News clouds and storms to move out And I I really thought that was going to be the the more intense or stressful part of the of the trip So we had a great day.
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We leave Atlanta. We work center was great. They work through some storms and some buildups and stuff but we had good margins. Everything was good. We get out and Coming into We're going to stop it or my kids favorite fbo. Oh, it's meridian key field and they have free ice cream there so obviously. The kids are Are pretty excited about it. And this is a while ago. We got cleared for the approach and went to start to slow down. Because we're number two, I remember. We're we're going to start thinking about spacing. Meridian was going to sneak in front of us. because he's going to faster and I remember pulling back on that throttle and nothing changing. You know when you're learning to fly a lot of its by sound. First and foremost is kind of that instinct. And just didn't hear that sound drops you kept pulling back pulling back on the throttle and you know and this is in a piper arrow and then there's a little bit of play in there sometimes. You're pulling back. You don't get that until you get a little bit further back so kept pulling it back and then all of a sudden. The gear horn goes off. And then it just kind clicks that hey My throttles all the way out. And we're not slowing down manifold pressures pinned in my rpm's or pinned and we're going to have to. We're going to have to figure this out but but you're right. That video did go go crazy on online and kind of sparked up family pilot as as today. The ironic thing is. We weren't even planning on recording that flight. I I didn't have the audio recordings going on We had a camera that was just stuck there from the trip over which we planned on filming and we turned it on for the departure and everything and it was recording. We didn't have the audio rigged up or anything at all but it ended up being one of the. You know really influential moments of my life when you change your perspective on general aviation and all those practice maneuvers that you do in the pattern and over and over and that that muscle memory and that that that training, I mean we need. We need to take that seriously. Yeah so. I know what what happens when the throttle cable breaks like that. I didn't think I learned until that day. But what happens when the throttle cable breaks. Well so it's a great design when that throttle cable breaks. The linkages are all spring loaded. And you know if you're running snowblower a lawnmower throttle cable breaks your engine shutoff Obviously you can imagine what that would be problematic in an airplane so when the throttle cable breaks in a plane are throttles spring forward. And then what you can do is You can use your mixture to kind of give you some some throttle control by essentially turning off your engine doing power off landing so you guys. I watched the video few times. You guys fly around for a while. Atc was great. You actually called. Who is our mechanics still today? You were able to talk to him on the phone through. Atc ya’ll trouble shot. The best she could and the decision was made to do a to shut down the engine on shore final. I believe and make a make a landing safely. Obviously, you're here and your family's here. I remember your your wife's expression win the roll off the runway That had to be a pretty hairy experience. But but if you're going to have an emergency that's probably a fairly decent one has, I guess yeah absolutely. I mean it's You know looking back on it you as you get as you get more experience as a pilot you always think wow. I really didn't know anything before. I mean you know Since done some commercial check rides and I didn't fail them. I did to commercial check rises to be clear single. Engine the multi-engine but you know as you it's so important just to keep learning. I mean looking back. I was trained and proficient and felt comfortable in that situation. When I pulled the throttle back and and there is nothing nothing changing. I was pretty sure that that we're going to have power off landing and that was going be what you know what was going to be the solution but you know. Take your time I just remember thinking all right. Let's figure this out. Let's let's figure out how we're going to get down. Let's figure out margin and what if and and that's what we did. Atc was great. We used all that could even call our mechanic like you say and today. This is what I’m thinking. What do you think and had a good chat? And he's like yeah that that's going to be about all that you're going to be able to do and And not a big deal will get fixed when you're on the ground so that's what we We set up for. It's been a lot of time thinking all right. We've all practice power offs before and we know what that looks like and what site picture. We're going to shoot for but we've never really practiced you know restarting your engine or it’s Not your instructor choosing when to kill your engine. You're going to choose when to kill your engine so just think that through. Where do you want to be and when do you want to do it? How do you want to be set up? What about your gear you know?
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Do you want to get that down before? Landing assured is is Something to think through. But in this situation, I was high was fast. Lending assured wasn't really my issue. And I had a massive runway so just brief that to yourself a couple of times and make sure that you've really thought it through and no you're restart procedure. Are you going to leave your mags or you're going to leave your mags on? you know. turn them off. What do you do with your fuel and just have machine? You're you're going to do in that. It's thought out and then do it like you've been trained. That was a very very interesting day for sure. I'll never forget what when. I watched that video. One of the things stands out is when ray mechanic actually says wait the broke and he's in air right now. He very surprised that all this is happening real time. I'm sure he hasn't gotten very many phone calls from. Atc to try trouble troubleshoot. Something like that in the air. So, part of what we wanted to talk about today was not only the at family pilot but really just how do general aviation pilots stay proficient. What are some of the tips and tricks that a flight school owner DPE and a very active GA pilot would would recommend for people. So, I guess I’ll start with you Wally even when you see you got to see hundreds of people flying on a on a regular basis. What are some of the things you pass along as as guidance or tips that you might tell someone that they should be doing as as a pilot to to stay proficient. What one thing that comes to mind with. This Devon is is You know one thing. I stress with with my applicants is is checklist usage. The fact is that. If I’m not mistaken. There is no checklist for this The situation correct so You know especially with my more advanced check rides commercial. Check rides I will. I'll give them situations of an abnormal or an emergency. That there is no checklist for and So to say there's a right answer to how you handled the situation. There's there's lots of right answers but You know just going through the thought process of how we're going to manage this situation and one thing that that you did mention is taking your time with it. You know unless you're on fire or unless you're fuel critical you a lot of times. Most times do have time. So, I it sounds like you did a really good job of managing your resources and using your resources. One thing I talk about on instrument check rides primarily is is when there's a change of plan and other words. Atc gives you reroute or atc gives you a hold or something like that. This is something that you probably were not planning for. I tell you know I. I asked the while. I tell the applicants I said there's three things that you should be thinking about when this happens and the first thing is feel has fuel situation because fuel equates time basically how much time do I have. The second thing you should be looking at or considering is fuel. How much time do I have? How much fuel. I have and the third thing you should be thinking about is fuel fuel. Do I have. How much time do I have fuel fuel and fuel because it does equate to time and and it sounds like you're in a fairly good situation where you you did have time and we're able to kind of You know make that phone. Call to a mechanic which you know. That's exactly what we would do with the airlines as we will get on on the phone with our dispatcher and our maintenance people and try to trouble shoot for the best outcome but Sounds like you did an excellent job and and You know again. there are scenario. There are things that are going to happen. These airplanes that. We don't have checklist for so you are kind of improvising. One thought that jumps to mind for me as a think about proficiency being a flight school owner is really. What are people doing to stay proficient. you know. there's there's a lot of things out there and one of our one of our shows we have on our list is the talk about the faa wings program which is really their proficiency and safety program which is a great tool everyone will look into it. Listen to our show when we when we do it but it does come back to what. What are the minimums at? The faa tells us that we have to do. And if you're just those minimums which a know many of us and I’m guilty of doing it myself of getting my six approaches and holds and things done days if not hours before my my six months runs out. That's probably not that I’m proficient. Probably this means I’m legal What if it's you know. What if someone's getting their night stuff done every eighty-nine days do you. Would you like to fly with that person? If you were able to help him Wally neither. I don't think so. And you know. I I asked on. Check rides provide who defines proficiency. And it's it's the person in the mirror who defines proficiency and It might be different for all of us.
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I know I have. I've been in situations in my airline career where I worked in the simulator building and I only flew a couple times a month two days a month usually and once I was in the rhythm of just flying two days a month, I felt very comfortable. But now if I flew two days a month would feel like a fish out of water. I'm just I wouldn't feel right and you know I. I need to fly a lot more than that. Yeah, I think we talk a lot about it a lot early on in your private pilot. Maybe your early instrument days about just personal minimums and I am a big advocate of personal minimums. I know what mine are. I know when. I will go in in the soup not in the soup. I know what my my layers have to be from from the above ground. Before I’m going to shoot an approach. Those sorts of things still today. But I don't I don't hear people talking about them regularly well into their career meaning they don't they don't reflect on them like they do when their early on and I think that's part of it like even. How often will. I fly night by myself to stay proficient without having someone ride with me and so I’ll do about every fifty days. I want to stay the night current for myself and it might be easy for me. Because I own a flight school but it's not too hard to go fly with someone at night. If you love aviation, you'll be able to find somebody ride with. I'm sure but I try to every four or five months. Have someone fly with me As who wants to log some nighttime and again that my sound simpler for me but it's not it's you can ask anyone. I'm sure that is more rated than you are. Has more time than you are to go ride with you at night and just see if they anything. You're doing wrong or indifferent. Right, they would maybe make you a better nighttime pilot. So that's kind of my nights stuff the the thank goodness. I fly enough to my daytime. Passenger stuff won't won't run out on me more than likely but Devin as you think about proficiency and we talked about it in a recent instrument fly what what do you think about for yourself as it relates to staying staying current and staying proficient as a family pilot. You got some pretty important cargo with you. You're taking those trips. Yeah, and just just to build on what you're saying. Bobby you know you you learn something on every flight when you fly with somebody new you either learn a different way to do something that you want to adopt or you learn that your way is is a great way that you should keep doing that so you do learn from any pilot there whether it confirms something that you do or you learn new technique or new way to think about it so always just be open and I think that's what's what's really unique about aviation is that the community is very open to learn and very Safety safety oriented when I think of a proficiency situation and I think my situation is probably a lot of the GA situation and what I mean. Are you know bobby? You're you're at a flight school every day. You hear an airplane start every day. You're watching people go from discovery flights to private instrument. And you're hearing the the chatter and the experience. You're hearing people talk about flying in relation every day Wally you're in a similar boat right I mean professionally As as a as an airline pilot and then dpe. But on on behalf of the guy that that means with the dpe gets his ticket and then goes home and takes a big sigh as good. You know that. Pass my check ride And not necessarily just because of covid but especially because of covid and you know people might not be as practice as they had been. I mean if you were flying once a month to go to dinner or lunch or whatnot. Maybe you haven't done that in a while. You are patterns or behaviors are changing but one thing that scares me about general aviation. Is the accident rates. cause I do study that and it's not to be morbid but it's it's to learn and to understand and grow but look around holidays In in the US and around the world accident rates around holidays pop up and and it's a theory that I have and whether it's right or wrong I don't really care because it's something that will sit with me but I don't want to be a pilot who is not flying regularly and then jumps in for the holiday vacation and I don't hear about aviation every day when my Monday to Friday career is talking about other things You know I. I've found just listening to podcasts and ironic that we're talking on one now but you can listen to the industry in the nation listened to. Atc watch YouTube to a selfless plug there. But I mean watching other people fly just keeps it fresh in your mind and tries to keep that in there and we took a break with covid.
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Texas was pretty shut in here for a little while and my family actually went to Canada for for a while as well and I hadn't flown and when I started flying it was not proficient. It probably wasn't even safe to see CFI with me and I wouldn't have wanted to have been single pilot but Those breaks for the folks that don't live aviation every day. We all of the passion for it. But when you're not around it What worries me is that my proficiencies going to eat away. Well, that's a good point. Because I do get blinded and try and get all these people around the flight school to remember what it was like to be that one- or two-hour pilot. Because that's the excitement that we see our our should be seeing come through our door on a regular basis but it does get tough when you don't have a plan you know when we're working on a rating or a commercial license or a private pilot's license you have a plan and you're working towards something and then when you finish that you have this this release of anxiety probably and then you take any breath but you might not have a purpose to go fly with then causes you some gaps in your proficiency. You're not. I don't know a single person and if you're out there send me an email at love love to hear who goes out and flies turns around a point on a regular basis after they get two hundred hours flight time. It just doesn't just doesn't happen but the skill is still as important as it was when you were learning how to fly. I have not alone gone to the practice area. And donna power off stall since I passed my commercial check ride. Does that make me a less pilot? I don't know but does it make me recognize it. When I’ve taken off as well probably not right so I could probably use some of that practice on an ongoing basis. No matter what stage at in aviation well build on. That is absolutely and I remember. You know you when I got my instrument rating You you ask me. When are you starting your commercial and its kind of you know? It didn't really resonate with me. Because I was like. Well, I’m not going to the airlines. That's not my plan. So, I I just never thought of it. But the the commercial check ride which I’ve now done spoiler but I mean it. It really changes. It brings you to the to another level and and the cfi will bring me to another level and then as you just continue to develop have that plan. And honestly, I have no intentions of being an actual commercial pilot. But I went and got the ratings and I feel more proficient and better pilot than ever before and it's just a great great training and when you're doing these maneuvers and DPEs will always reinforce this but understand why you're doing this maneuver and truly understand it because if you if you do have an engine failure single engine failure or full-on engine out in a single engine plane. Those maneuvers aren't just going to hear the beep and then pushed forward. Those maneuvers are going to what you're going to need to do effectively to to land the plane and frankly save your own life. No-doubt Devon let me ask you this when when you had this incident with the arrow were you commercial. Where you're your commercial pilot at that point. I was not okay. The look I bring that up because probably the the mother of all maneuvers on the commercial pilot check. Writing is the power off one eighty. You mentioned that you see the applicant usually cringe and Basically that's what you did on this this The situation with the arrow you had to shut the engine off using the mixture. So, you did a power off landing so I mean there's an example right there of we think of this as well this is this is maneuver that the acs says we got to do because we got a check the box but this is real world So that power off one eighty is a great great maneuver in and I try to If I have a you know someone who has no intent of getting a commercial. I we we do that maneuver. I tried to do it with them. You know if I’m instructing. I did with my daughters and it's a great it's a great maneuver even if you're not pursuing a commercial but with all this mind I I want to plug a book. It's called the killing zone and I. it's that's a horrible name but it. It's the name of the book. And I didn't name it. It's written by Paul craig and it's it's a very analytical book in It's actually some of. It's pretty dry. Statistics almost like a textbook. But if you can get through all that it's it's very interesting and and he just has some statistics and what he shows. Statistics is that the Our range of pilots were most accidents.
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Happen is one hundred and one hundred and fifty hours and And what happens at one hundred and one hundred and fifty hours. And I think what happens is is a private pilot. They probably get their private pilot. Certificate around sixty seventy hours. They go out and thirty hours later. They're feeling pretty good about themselves I I want to say cocky but maybe they get a little complacent And then maybe after one hundred fifty hours then maybe you are really gaining some proficiency so it's a very interesting rate again. It's called the killing zone. You can get an online or or get a paper version but Very interesting read. Let's that's interesting. Because I think I remember some of my moments where I was most influenced by external factors was probably between one hundred hundred right. You had some friends who wanted to go to dinner. The layer you know the cloud. The bottom of the clouds was eighteen hundred feet. You wanted to kind. You wanted to get them there. You wanted to show off that you were a private pilot. You had this. I had this real strong force that day. And I said no twice. But I didn't say no and were done I said no. Let's give it another hour. And that was so uncommitted to saying no is calling it a day back then but as I broke through a hundred and fifty or so and I think about going to pick up my daughter in Austin and it's twenty-two hundred feet here and I look at Austin and assists eight hundred feet there. I'm just not going to go. I'm not going to take that chance. I'm rated I could. I could go a legally. I could go but I don't feel comfortable to go tackle that when I don't have to go and I have the option to drive a car. Yes, its going to take me a few more hours. But I think we hear it a lot but I heard a lot around here. It's better to be down here. Wishing I was up there up there wishing I was down here absolutely. So, there's no you know. I tell everybody you don't have to go. You just don't have to go. There's no. I've never seen a moment where you had to go if you were worried about that. Little bit of risk and the last point. I'll make before I Devin one more question talking about that power off and eighty something that I think we work on the pulling the power for private pilot students to do the emergency procedures and go through it and they probably sometimes land and sometimes go around. But I’ve always when I do that might proficiencies left. My third landing is always the power off one eighty and its personal bobby Challenge to say if. I can't do it tonight. Then I’m probably not going to be able to do it during the day so I I try to make that last landing when I’m doing my night currency stuff to be a power off one eighty and it's hard because it's dark. You don't have as much visual reference and so if you make that when you're probably pretty good shape so Trying to corporate some of those things to keep your proficiency up whether they're required for the minimums or not and if you're not ask a cfi to ride with you. Don't go out and try anything that you're not comfortable doing unless you get some help with you and and somebody that's really going to be able to protect you and help keep you safe. So, as we wrap. I'll ask you. How how do you. How do you want people to find you online? How do you want people to see family pilot stuff if you direct them any of that stuff and then any closing remarks from you? I appreciate appreciate the invitation. I love what you guys are doing. I I have a passion for growing awareness of general aviation and a passion for you generally evasion pilot staying proficient for us folks. That are not flying every day or looking at a at an airline schedule So so thank you for letting me bring my topic up. I hope that people don't write down all of what we said and make that how they're going to do it but I hope that it makes them ask themselves. Or how do I stay proficient. And should I jump in the plane on thanksgiving day. I haven't flown in six months and go off and do something. So, keep the discussion alive. And a general aviation is is truly amazing and we're very fortunate living where we live here in the us to have so many general aviation airports. Don't take that for granted. There's a lot of there's a lot of other countries including where I’m from scene is just not that so we are fortunate for it. I you might. You might gripe when you get a ramp theater at a small little airport but just know that that might be helping that airport. Stay there for you For family pilot. We're having a great time. We started doing some pilot and paws flights and some some can compassion flights. And it's a great way to stay proficient it's flying for cause it's absolutely rewarding But you can check out family pilot on on Facebook Instagram or YouTube. YouTube the more popular one and we'll put videos on there but Reach out let us know what trips you want to see and what we can do better if you have any questions. We're always happy to have a discussion. Thanks Wally anything to add
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It sounds good. All right thanks for listening as always stay behind the prop and be proficient till next week. Thanks Bravo tango papa we are clear of the active runway would like to taxi park. Bravo tango papa. Taxi to park great. Show have a nice day taxi to park. Thanks, you too Bravo tango papa Thanks for listening to behind the prop. Please follow us on social media at behind the prop or visit our website. Www. behindtheprop.com until next week fly safe everyone.